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    • Wayne WorkmanW
      Wayne Workman
      last edited by

      George is saying that the problem is either Microsoft’s or iPXE’s - and we’re still trying to figure it out more exactly. This is a very new problem.

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        aksl
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        I tried with Windows Rev. 1607 and the problem was same.

        Hmm…

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          Sebastian Roth Moderator
          last edited by

          @aksl Ok, so this sounds like you have a different issue than the other guys.

          Is this happening on one single PC or several ones? If this is more than one, are those all the same model? Please tell us more about the PCs you are using. Vendor, model, …

          Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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            aksl
            last edited by

            Hi,

            So, i tested with :

            Dell Optiplex 3020M.

            There is no deployed image.

            Just the basic OS (Windows 7).

            Schema : Boot from PXE -> First choice (boot from hard drive) -> Black screen (no action)

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              aksl
              last edited by

              My bad … Doesn’t working with ‘Sanboot’, true !

              But with ‘First HDD it’s ok’.

              I have other model : Motherboard ASUS A58M-E : imposible to boot (Win 8.1/10).

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              • george1421G
                george1421 Moderator @aksl
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                @aksl said in Imposible to boot from hard drive:

                Dell Optiplex 3020M.

                I think I asked this before, but is the 3020M configured in uefi mode? Its important to know because uefi systems need a different exit mode than bios (legacy) mode. For uefi mode systems you should use the exit mode of rEFInd, sanboot is for bios(legacy) mode systems.

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                  aksl
                  last edited by

                  New windows 10 (legacy) is ok …

                  Windows 10 UEFI, imposible.

                  Regardless of the exit mode.

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                    aksl
                    last edited by

                    No solutions ?

                    Sorry 😞

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                      Sebastian Roth Moderator
                      last edited by

                      @aksl The things you posted are a bit mixed up. This way we won’t get any further I am afraid. So same question again. Is this happening on one single PC or several ones? All the same model/vendor or different ones? Please post a proper list of the PC you tested this on, like this:

                      • Dell Optiplex 3020M - UEFI - exit type: rEFInd - hangs on black screen
                      • …

                      Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                        aksl
                        last edited by

                        Thanks for your help.

                        In fact, it’s simple.

                        For all PCs with Legacy mode, it’s working.

                        For all PCs with UEFI mode, isn’t working (tried all exit mode).

                        Windows 7, 8 & 10 !

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                        • george1421G
                          george1421 Moderator @aksl
                          last edited by

                          @aksl For uefi, rEFInd is really your best option. Make sure you have the exit mode for the specific computer and uefi set to rEFInd and then lets tell refind to look in more places for a boot drive.

                          1. On the fog server from a linux console prompt edit the following file: /var/www/html/fog/service/ipxe/refind.conf
                          2. Search for the line scanfor internal and comment it out to look like this
                          #scanfor internal
                          
                          1. Search for the line #scanfor internal,hdbios,external,biosexternal and uncomment it to look like this
                          scanfor internal,hdbios,external,biosexternal
                          
                          1. Save and exit the editor.
                          2. Now pxe boot the uefi system and see if that mode finds the hard drive.

                          rEFInd “should” find the boot disk if it’s installed.

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                            Sebastian Roth Moderator
                            last edited by

                            And as well, while you edit /var/www/html/fog/service/ipxe/refind.conf set the option timeout to zero. Then it would show you another boot selection menu. So hopefully we will see anything on screen at least.

                            @aksl said:

                            For all PCs with Legacy mode, it’s working.
                            For all PCs with UEFI mode, isn’t working (tried all exit mode).
                            Windows 7, 8 & 10 !

                            Have you actually installed those systems in UEFI mode? It’s very different to install windows in legacy BIOS mode and then just switch over to UEFI later on.

                            Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                              aksl
                              last edited by

                              Hi,

                              I edited the refind.conf and timeout is now zero.

                              I don’t see any difference in the boot menu.

                              Do I have to press a key ?

                              Currently functioning as before.

                              Thanks

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                                Sebastian Roth Moderator
                                last edited by

                                @aksl Did you also change the things in refind.conf George suggested? See his post a little further down.

                                Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                                  aksl
                                  last edited by

                                  Oh, I had not seen sorry.

                                  But I tested and finally it’s the same problem.

                                  Always this line which flashes in the top left.

                                  With your different shifts, I have not seen any behavior changes in the boot menu.

                                  I don’t know what to do …;

                                  Thanks

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                                    Sebastian Roth Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    @aksl Secure boot is disabled I suppose?!

                                    Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                                      aksl
                                      last edited by

                                      Yea … disabled

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                                        aksl
                                        last edited by

                                        To your mind, the problem is FOG or my bios setup ?

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                                          Sebastian Roth Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          @aksl said in Imposible to boot from hard drive:

                                          To your mind, the problem is FOG or my bios setup ?

                                          Well, I am still not quite sure. We have hundreds of users and almost no one reporting an issue with chainloading windows.
                                          Please do me a favour, take one of these PCs where you see the issue, pop in a windows install CD and boot from it. For that change boot order to CD, HD, PXE and make sure to not change anything except boot order!!! Let it install completely, finish the initial setup, remove CD and then change boot order to PXE, HD, CD. Big question now: Does chainloading windows from the FOG menu fail again (should be a machine/BIOS issue) or does it chainload properly (tells us we have a FOG/iPXE issue I suppose.
                                          Note down the result and do the reverse test now. Leave BIOS settings as is and let it deploy your image you had the issue with before. Then try chainloading from the FOG menu to windows again.

                                          I know this sounds a lot of pain but I ask you to give it a go to proove what is wrong here. Do it exactly as described, don’t try to be smart and use another PC to make this go faster or anything.

                                          By the way, is this a resizable image type or non-resizable one?

                                          Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                                            aksl
                                            last edited by

                                            Hello,

                                            Does chainloading windows from the FOG menu fail again (should be a machine/BIOS issue) : yes.

                                            But I have this concern from the beginning. It is not on a restored image but on a direct installation.

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