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    x23piracy
    last edited by x23piracy Jul 3, 2017, 8:54 AM Jul 3, 2017, 2:53 PM

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    • FOG Version: 1.4.4
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    Hi,

    today i got a Surface Book, my default Kernel ist ipxe7154 but it won’t boot up with that kernel.
    Since the Surface Book isn’t registered i cannot switch to another kernel within the host definition.

    Before i change my DHCP Boot Option temporary, is someone here who can tell me which kernel works?
    Is there one?

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    I am using the original ms dock:

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    Regards X23

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      x23piracy
      last edited by Jul 3, 2017, 3:01 PM

      Hi,

      for testing i used the older surface pro 3 usb nic from ms that one was allready registered to another host.
      For testing i’ve edited that known hosts kernel to ipxe.efi:

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      but when i try to boot the surface book it gets ipxe7154.efi instead of ipxe.efi, why?

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        Quazz Moderator @x23piracy
        last edited by Jul 3, 2017, 3:12 PM

        @x23piracy Because that kernel doesn’t refer to the TFTP iPXE kernel, it refers to bzImage (the kernel loaded for imaging, registering, etc)

        You can manually register the device. The MAC address should be on the dock.

        Doing the usual has_usb_nic=1 as host kernel argument should help, but given that this is a new Surface device and they’ve given trouble in the past, this may need @Developers assistance.

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          x23piracy @Quazz
          last edited by Jul 3, 2017, 3:27 PM

          @Quazz Hi, i just change my boot file for uefi from ipxe7154 to ipxe.efi but it’s the same it cannot load the nic to get a network connection. Is one of the available kernels known to work with surface book and its dock?

          Regards X23

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            Quazz Moderator @x23piracy
            last edited by Quazz Jul 3, 2017, 9:33 AM Jul 3, 2017, 3:31 PM

            @x23piracy Not that I’m aware of, though they could work, it’s hard to say without people trying it out.

            Does not look good so far, though. I’m very far from being an expert, but I reckon the current iPXE kernels don’t yet support this.

            Aside from has_usb_nic=1 , try using the kernel command iommu=soft as well.

            edit: Also, if it’s possible to turn of xHCI in BIOS, try that as well.

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              george1421 Moderator @x23piracy
              last edited by Jul 3, 2017, 3:50 PM

              @x23piracy There was just a kernel update released by the developers. 4.11.6 that was released with FOG 1.4.4. I have FOG 1.4.0 loaded on my production servers, with kernel 4.11.0 if you want to try a down level bzImage file.

              So the question to you is, did a previous version of the kernel work on this surface pro, or is it a new surface pro?

              @Quazz is right, if you are starting to boot the FOS kernel then iPXE is out of the picture and not your issue.

              Since this system isn’t registered, you can either manually register and schedule a debug deploy or temporarily add the kernel parameter isdebug=yes and then pxe boot the target computer to get to the FOS command prompt.

              Once there we might issue a lsusb to see if that external dock is detected.

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                Tom Elliott
                last edited by Jul 3, 2017, 4:48 PM

                Host Kernel is not IPXE Booting.

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                  Tom Elliott
                  last edited by Jul 3, 2017, 4:49 PM

                  Boot files are set by the dhcp server Option 67, not by anything in the GUI.

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                    x23piracy @george1421
                    last edited by x23piracy Jul 3, 2017, 2:47 PM Jul 3, 2017, 8:31 PM

                    @george1421 said in Surface Book won't boot the kernel:

                    So the question to you is, did a previous version of the kernel work on this surface pro, or is it a new surface pro?

                    No, this is my first Surface Book i ever tried with FOG, Surface 3/4 Pro are working with ipxe7154.efi

                    Since this system isn’t registered, you can either manually register and schedule a debug deploy or temporarily add the

                    I tried to use the MS Surface 3 Pro USB NIC, it’s MAC was already registered to a different system were i used that usb nic for imaging so i just tried to boot to FOS with that registration to another host but it still cannot boot to FOS.

                    Anyone here who is working with Surface Books?

                    I don’t think that the Dock’s internals are different to the Surface 4 Pro Docks, they look pretty the same, i cannot swear it’s the same hw inside but i would bet. And i could succesfully a Surface 4 Pro with that Dock.

                    @Quazz said in Surface Book won't boot the kernel:

                    edit: Also, if it’s possible to turn of xHCI in BIOS, try that as well.

                    I can try this tomorrow.

                    @Tom-Elliott said in Surface Book won't boot the kernel:

                    Host Kernel is not IPXE Booting.

                    What else can be done with that option?

                    @george1421 said in Surface Book won't boot the kernel:

                    Once there we might issue a lsusb to see if that external dock is detected.

                    Boot to shell, then firing a lsusb? Ok, i will do this tomorrow too.

                    Regards X23

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                      x23piracy @Quazz
                      last edited by x23piracy Jul 4, 2017, 5:56 AM Jul 4, 2017, 11:55 AM

                      @Quazz said in Surface Book won't boot the kernel:

                      Aside from has_usb_nic=1 , try using the kernel command iommu=soft as well.

                      @Quazz has_usb_nic=1 did the job, excellent man 🙂
                      Surface Book is now working with FOG… Applause.

                      Please mark as solved, thanks.

                      Regards X23

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                        x23piracy
                        last edited by Jul 4, 2017, 12:48 PM

                        Hi,

                        ok it’s not working it just booted once over the surface 3 pro usb nic and the supplied dock for surface book, but just a single time. Another strange issue in my it life… 😞

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                          x23piracy
                          last edited by Jul 4, 2017, 5:41 PM

                          Hi,

                          is there a difference between choosing system information in fog menu and do a inventory of the machine?
                          I only could boot once with usb nic or the dock when i add has_usb_nic=1 but i didn’t choose to image i just started the system information entry then it booted up but i don’t know if there is a difference between that and for example planing a deploy task.

                          Regards X23

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                            x23piracy
                            last edited by Jul 6, 2017, 5:46 PM

                            Hi,

                            has no one around the forums a Surface Book that could be tried with FOG please?

                            Regards X23

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                              Tom Elliott @x23piracy
                              last edited by Jul 6, 2017, 5:49 PM

                              @x23piracy Have you tried ipxe7156.efi files?

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                                x23piracy @Tom Elliott
                                last edited by x23piracy Jul 6, 2017, 11:53 AM Jul 6, 2017, 5:50 PM

                                @Tom-Elliott said in Surface Book won't boot the kernel:

                                @x23piracy Have you tried ipxe7156.efi files?

                                sure, 7154 are my default files because we have a lot of surface 3/4 Pro, since 7154 isnt working i also tried ipxe.efi, same error.
                                If you say file(s) are there more then one ipxe7154.efi files?

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                                  Tom Elliott @x23piracy
                                  last edited by Jul 6, 2017, 5:53 PM

                                  @x23piracy There are. If you know the “model” of the nic, you could try the realtek7154.efi, or intel7154.efi or, or or…

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                                    x23piracy @Tom Elliott
                                    last edited by x23piracy Jul 6, 2017, 12:01 PM Jul 6, 2017, 5:57 PM

                                    @Tom-Elliott I found the following (filtered) in /tftpboot:

                                    i386-7156-efi
                                    i386-efi
                                    intel7156.efi
                                    intel.efi
                                    ipxe7156.efi
                                    ipxe.efi
                                    realtek7156.efi
                                    realtek.efi
                                    snp7156.efi
                                    snp.efi
                                    snponly7156.efi
                                    snponly.efi
                                    

                                    Should i try them all or are senseless ones listed?

                                    What about:

                                    has_usb_nic=1
                                    iommu=soft
                                    

                                    should i set these values as arguments?

                                    Afaik the nic in the dock should be from intel.

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                                      x23piracy @Tom Elliott
                                      last edited by x23piracy Jul 6, 2017, 12:17 PM Jul 6, 2017, 6:14 PM

                                      @Tom-Elliott i was wrong with the nic 😉
                                      Here is a teardown: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/danchar/surface-dock-teardown-brick-shaped-dock-for-sp3sp4surfacebook/

                                      It should be a Realtek RTL8153AM Ethernet:
                                      http://www.realtek.com.tw/search/default.aspx?keyword=8153

                                      Will try the realtek efi’s tomorrow at work

                                      Regards X23

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                                        x23piracy
                                        last edited by Jul 7, 2017, 11:48 AM

                                        It doesn’t work with any of the efi files.

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                                          Sebastian Roth Moderator
                                          last edited by Jul 27, 2017, 10:47 PM

                                          @x23piracy This seems to be a totally different issue than what we see with the surface pro 3/4 devices. Those hang on init.xz... ok as far as I know. This SurfaceBook device seems to get past this (using the ipxe7156.efi binary) but then hangs because the linux kernel (!= ipxe binary/kernel) does not recognize the USB/dock NIC. The messages on screen look like there is a USB communication issue. What happens when you press enter as is says on the screen? Do you get any further? I think we need more information on that USB dock device. are you able to live boot a linux system and run lsusb?

                                          Hmm?? https://paulphilippov.com/articles/how-to-fix-device-not-accepting-address-error

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