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    FOG kernel stalling out after PXE boot

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      BryceZ
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      Unfortunately I’m not a kernel expert. I would think that a newer KS kernel would be more likely to support your newer motherboard. It seems like you need a module that’s not compiled into the 2.6.36.1 Core.

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        Bob Fillmore
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        So we’ve been using FOG on our HP XW4400 workstaions quite successfully. Now we have gotten a shipment of new HP z400 workstations, and despite the Z400 being on the happy list with FOG, we are getting the kernel_thread_helper+0x6/0x10 message when trying to boot past the FOG menu via PXE. We tried changing kernels and manually adding the machine to the FOG host list to set the acpi=off parameter to no avail.
        On the XW4400s, while watching the boot process it seems there’s a display change from 800X600 in the FOG menu to something much higher when it goes to do the imaging or inventory so I’m wondering if that is related. The old workstations have a mix of Geforce based cards and the Z400s are all Quadro 2000s. Any ideas?

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          BryceZ
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          Which version of the boot image are you using? The wiki says that the Z400’s work with 0.29, but there were some significant changes between 0.29 and 0.30 which have been problematic for a number of people.

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            Bob Fillmore
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            I tried a couple of them, but I was afraid of breaking what is working. 3.1-rc8 Core was the last one I tried. I saw that FOC0.29 worked with the Z400s but I don’t know if that’s relevant since HP uses the same model number (Z400) for workstations spanning years. The Z400 on my bench is not the same Z400 that was available when 0.29 was released. Also, how does one tell which PXE Boot Image was deployed with which version of FOG?
            Sorry if my questions seem simple; I’m not fluent in Unix.

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              BryceZ
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              The boot images are not updated between version releases, so the 0.29 boot image was the same from release until 0.30 which received an new boot image, and so on.

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                Bob Fillmore
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                OK; so what boot image was used in 0.29?

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                  BryceZ
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                  The boot images don’t really have version numbers

                  To get the boot image from 0.29 go to the sourceforge project page for FOG and download [URL=‘http://sourceforge.net/projects/freeghost/files/FOG/fog_0.29/’]FOG 0.29[/URL] to your FOG server. Go to /tftpboot/fog/images/ and rename init.gz to init.gz.BACKUP (or whatever). Open the downloaded package and go to fog_0.29/packages/tftp/fog/images/, and copy init.gz into /tftpboot/fog/images/. Make sure the ownership and permissions are the same for init.gz and init.gz.BACKUP, and then PXE boot one of your Z400 computers to give it a try.

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                    Bob Fillmore
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                    OK; I get the same message with the init.gz from the 0.29 package.

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                      Bob Fillmore
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                      And just to make sure I did everything right (since Unix is not my primary language):
                      /tftpboot/fog/images$ ls -l
                      total 36628
                      -rw-r–r-- 1 fog root 30971987 2010-05-11 08:25 init.gz
                      -rw-r–r-- 1 fog root 6530155 2011-11-30 16:12 init.gz.BACKUP

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                        Peter Smee
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                        Hey Bob, I am about to throw an older video card into one of my new machines, I will let you know how it goes.

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                          Bob Fillmore
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                          OK, I swapped out the Quadro 2000 and tossed in a Geforce 9800GTX+ and PXE boots past the initial FOG menu. It complaines that the BIOS for the Z400 is unknown, but appears to function as expected. I’m going to pull an image now and see how it goes. 🙂

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                            Bob Fillmore
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                            OK, I swapped out the Quadro 2000 and tossed in a Geforce 9800GTX+ and PXE boots past the initial FOG menu. It complaines that the BIOS for the Z400 is unknown, but appears to function as expected. I’m going to pull an image now and see how it goes. 🙂

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                              Peter Smee
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                              Hey Bob, I did the same and it worked also, and I get the same unknown error on the MB too. I am lucky to have onboard Intel HDMI out that I just enable to image, I have also found that enabling the onboard video the computers will still image, though they will not show anything on the screen this is using the [FONT=Ubuntu][COLOR=#333333]Kernel - 2.6.36.1 Core.[/COLOR][/FONT]

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                                Bob Fillmore
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                                Looks like we now have a problem with the RAID. The workstations are using the MOBO built in raid controller to have the 2 HDs in RAID0 to increase performance. The 0.29 kernel didn’t see anything and just crashed, so I switched back to the old kernel and got an image. Unfortunatley, dropping the image back boots to a “Non system disk” error…

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                                  Peter Smee
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                                  Did you build the image on the RAID? If yes try these instructions to see if it’s the boot sector then re-sysprep and re-image from that machine. [url]http://www.heiser.net/posts/3256[/url]

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                                    Bob Fillmore
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                                    Yes; the image was built on a RAID. Tried the steps from the link you provided and the link that page referenced, but as far as DISKPART goes, it thinks the DISK has no partitions so none of that works.

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                                      Bob Fillmore
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                                      At the risk of being accused of Thread Necromancy, I wanted to check in on these issues.

                                      Seems that the OP & my initial issue was indeed caused by the Quadro in my case. Since my last post, I have researched Linux kernel-making, and have cooked up a kernel that now boots fine with the Quadro in the machine. Unfortunately, I am still unable to have FOG see the built-in Intel RAID controller properly (Firmware-RAID), and just can’t figure out how to get the kernel to see the RAID container instead of the individual disks… I see many posts about this issue with no solutions, and would very much like to get a solution.

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                                        ttcircus
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                                        Nice one Bob! I had the exact same problem with the same hardware (z400), i swapped the quadro for a cheap geforce and it did the trick! Thanks!

                                        [quote=“Bob Fillmore, post: 1085, member: 294”]OK, I swapped out the Quadro 2000 and tossed in a Geforce 9800GTX+ and PXE boots past the initial FOG menu. It complaines that the BIOS for the Z400 is unknown, but appears to function as expected. I’m going to pull an image now and see how it goes. :)[/quote]

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                                          Bob Fillmore
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                                          Glad my efforts helped someone. 😄

                                          Unfortunately, the lack of Firmware RAID support was a show stopper for us and I was forced to box my FOG servers and go with Acronis Snap Deploy. 😞

                                          I really like what FOG has to offer and I hope that someone will figure out this Firmware Raid issue so that we can go back to FOG in the future. 🙂

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                                            Bob Fillmore
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