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    WOL Firmware Linux Kernel Breaks - Power pulled or boot to windows fixes

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      Gael
      last edited by Gael

      1.5.2 :
      file bzImage
      bzImage: Linux kernel x86 boot executable bzImage, version 4.19.1 (jenkins-agent@Tollana) #1 SMP Mon Nov 12 18:23:08 CST 2018, RO-rootFS, swap_dev 0x8, Normal VGA
      file bzImage32
      bzImage32: Linux kernel x86 boot executable bzImage, version 4.15.2 (builder@c38bc0acaeb4) #5 SMP Tue Feb 13 18:32:54 UTC 2018, RO-rootFS, swap_dev 0x7, Normal VGA

      1.5.7 :
      file bzImage
      bzImage: Linux kernel x86 boot executable bzImage, version 5.1.16 (sebastian@Tollana) #2 SMP Wed Aug 28 17:12:41 CDT 2019, RO-rootFS, swap_dev 0x8, Normal VGA
      file bzImage32
      bzImage32: Linux kernel x86 boot executable bzImage, version 4.19.64 (jenkins-agent@Tollana) #1 SMP Mon Aug 5 09:59:10 CDT 2019, RO-rootFS, swap_dev 0x7, Normal VGA

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        Gael @george1421
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        @george1421 That’s work! 🙂

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          Sebastian Roth Moderator
          last edited by

          @Gael Ok, now we are sure it’s a FOS kernel issue causing this, probably some seldom issue with firmware on your NIC model. Can you tel us which NIC exactly you have (windows device manager hardware IDs)?

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            george1421 Moderator @Gael
            last edited by george1421

            @Gael See we also learned something that we didn’t know before, not only did you install 1.5.7, but you updated the FOS Linux kernel to version 5.x.x, where 1.5.7 should be shipped with linux-4.19.64 or there about. The 5.x.x kernels really haven’t been tested well enough and imo should not be used until we’ve had more field experience with them.

            So what happens if you roll the fos linux kernel back to 4.19.64? Does the behavior correct itself? Rolling back to the fos linux 4.19.1 seems to have done the trick.

            From windows can you get us the vendor ID and hardware ID from the device manager for this NIC as Sebastian suggested?

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              Gael @george1421
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              @george1421 Contrôleur Realtek PCIe GBE Family
              PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_085C1028&REV_15\4&1285CEFC&0&00E0
              PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_085C1028&REV_15
              PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&SUBSYS_085C1028
              PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&CC_020000
              PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&CC_0200
              PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168&REV_15
              PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8168
              PCI\VEN_10EC&CC_020000
              PCI\VEN_10EC&CC_0200
              PCI\VEN_10EC
              PCI\CC_020000
              PCI\CC_0200

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                Gael @george1421
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                @george1421 Very sorry to forgot tell the kernel update part.
                We updated to 5.1.16 because we will shortly receive new DELL optiplex 3070 that have NvMe SSD.

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                  george1421 Moderator @Gael
                  last edited by george1421

                  @Gael So at this point you can make a decision.

                  You have kernels 5.x and 4.x. Pick one to keep as bzImage (assuming 5.x). Rename the other as bzImage4.19.64. Then for all of the 3060s you have on your campus add in bzImage4.19.64 into the kernel field on the host definition for each system. That way when you deploy to the 3060s it will use the older kernel. If you have a lot of machines you can use the fog group setting to change all in the group all at once.

                  For reference the device [10EC:8168] is a Realtek 8169/8168/8101/8125 nic.

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                    Gael
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                      Gael
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                      @george1421 @Sebastian-Roth

                      Ok,

                      All is ok with kernel 4.19.64

                      Very thank for you help 🙂

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                        Tom Elliott @Gael
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                        @Gael et al.

                        I’m post a more descriptive post to summarize what the issue is. I don’t know how to fix (so I’ll start there.)

                        TL;DR;

                        Linux Kernel is putting a volatile Firmware on the NIC. This happens when FOS loads and the kernel begins associating the drivers. On restart, the firmware is still existing on the NIC from the Kernel. When Windows Boots, it re-flashes the volatile firmware so subsequent elements will work. Or a full power pull will do too (completely cold boot.)

                        Basis:

                        This particular issue, is due to Linux Kernel having a firmware defined for the NIC. This is volatile. This means when power is pulled, the firmware will no longer be present and normal actions will work properly.

                        While the machine is in FOS, the linux kernel hands it a temporary Firmware File and this is what’s causing the strangeness with the NIC.

                        Pulling the power cord causes the firmware to wipe. Similarly, if booting to Windows immediately after, and then powering off the machine, it should WOL. This is because Windows has a FW being applied when it loads, overwriting whatever the Linux Kernel pushed.

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                        Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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