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Super newbie guide for creating image to w10?

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    george1421 Moderator @motto
    last edited by Dec 20, 2017, 12:49 PM

    @motto That is what I’m going to test. That will give me a chance to make sure everything is correct before launching setup.

    Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!

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      motto @george1421
      last edited by Dec 20, 2017, 1:19 PM

      @george1421 said in Super newbie guide for creating image to w10?:

      @motto That is what I’m going to test. That will give me a chance to make sure everything is correct before launching setup.

      Sure, really apreciated 🙂

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        george1421 Moderator @motto
        last edited by Dec 20, 2017, 2:56 PM

        @motto Well, it works as documented.

        I can tell you I had more issues with my vm I was using as a test system than the process. I reused a vm from another test that was configured for uefi mode. So there was some things I learned during this process.

        1. While I created a universal bios/uefi boot winpe image, memdisk (what we are using in fog to launch the winpe.iso image) only supports bios mode. I need to look into what needs to be done for uefi booting.
        2. My vm was using a vmxnet3 adapter. The winpe iso didn’t have the required driver for this network adapter. Once I switched the vm to the Intel E1000 network adapter I could pull an IP address.
        3. If you made a mistake in the startnet.cmd file you will still be dropped to a command prompt, where I was manually able to connect to the network share with win10 installed and run setup.exe no problem.

        Just to make sure I didn’t have any legacy stuff from previous test left behind I created the winpe ISO starting on a clean Win10 system. This was a VM just setup by FOG imaging specifically for the purpose to create this iso image.
        I downloaded the Win10 1709 ADK from the MS web site as well as the latest Dell WinPE 10 driver cab files from the dell site. From there I executed the instructions in the script verbatim.

        For my fog menu settings I used tftp transport instead of NFS so I just placed the winpe iso image in the /tftpboot on the server. That has no bearing if winpe works or not, its just a delivery tool. I could have use http or nfs transport just as easily.

        For the win10 image, I downloaded a fresh iso of win10 pro v1709 from the MS Volume Licensing Center and install the files under samba on our dev FOG server running fog 1.4.4.

        So I’m not sure what could be wrong here. Its possible since I use the us english version and you are probably using your native language version of windows there is a compatibility issue ??

        Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!

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          motto @george1421
          last edited by motto Dec 21, 2017, 2:01 AM Dec 21, 2017, 7:11 AM

          @george1421 Hello George, here are my 2 photos.

          The problem is still the same, so im 100% sure that im doing something bad or there is something bad with my config.

          I boot using legacy bios, so I assume that it will be more “easy” to solve than in UEFI mode.

          FIrst, I boot the ipxe and choose my menu entry for w10
          Config:
          initrd nfs://${fog-ip}:/images/os/mswindows/10Pro/WinPE_amd6411.iso
          chain memdisk iso raw
          boot || goto MENU

          Then, it downloads the iso (I added two 1 at the and of the name for testing)
          w10dl

          After it download, it boots with this message (with your iso and mine)
          failing

          If I dont pressed anything or a key, it just boots from the local hard drive, so its like its not doing anything.

          Thanks!

          edit: I updated the menu , and now the error is different!

          new menu parameters:
          initrd /images/os/mswindows/10Pro/WinPE_amd6411.iso
          chain memdisk iso raw
          boot || goto MENU

          Error:
          newerror

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            Sebastian Roth Moderator
            last edited by Sebastian Roth Dec 21, 2017, 3:05 AM Dec 21, 2017, 9:04 AM

            @motto Pictures tell more than a thousand words. The MEMDISK error bootstrap too large to load` to me sounds like that machine doesn’t have enough RAM to load that ISO…

            Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

            Please support FOG if you like it: https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Support_FOG

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              motto @Sebastian Roth
              last edited by Dec 21, 2017, 10:31 AM

              @sebastian-roth Hello! I tried with 2 laptops, one with 8gb, so it cant be the problem :S

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                george1421 Moderator @motto
                last edited by george1421 Dec 21, 2017, 4:47 AM Dec 21, 2017, 10:45 AM

                @motto said in Super newbie guide for creating image to w10?:

                If I dont pressed anything or a key, it just boots from the local hard drive, so its like its not doing anything.

                This is normal. There is a file you need to remove from the iso image to skip this “feature”. If you were to burn that iso image to a cd or usb flash disk it would do the same thing. There is a file in the root of the iso image, <something>.bin (as said from an early morning memory). If you remove that from the iso image booting will not stop, it will boot straight to winpe.

                edit: I updated the menu , and now the error is different!

                Um, Unedit the menu. What you had was working correctly.

                Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!

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                  motto @george1421
                  last edited by Dec 21, 2017, 10:52 AM

                  @george1421 maybe that was the problem, I will try it right now 🙂 and with the first menu, wich is the one it is supossed to be.

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                    george1421 Moderator @motto
                    last edited by george1421 Dec 21, 2017, 5:05 AM Dec 21, 2017, 11:04 AM

                    @motto I don’t intend to confuse you, but I just remembered I had/have a second way to boot this winpe image that may support uefi booting too. I know it works for bios mode. https://forums.fogproject.org/topic/6284/booting-mdt-2013-litetouch-with-fog/6

                    I know this talks about lite touch, but mdt lite touch also uses winpe. I may have to alter the files loaded for winpe10. Please understand I’m still trying to find th ideal way to show people how to do advanced things with fog. I don’t load win10 via dvd any more since I use MDT for reference image deployment, so I haven’t had a “need” to perfect the tutorial.

                    Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!

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                      motto @george1421
                      last edited by Dec 21, 2017, 11:07 AM

                      @george1421 Sure, no problem

                      My only goal here is to get to the w10 installation load, just that, because my linux installation is working and loading.

                      I will try the MDT 🙂

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                        george1421 Moderator @motto
                        last edited by Dec 21, 2017, 12:27 PM

                        @motto Lets backup and start over.

                        Please reset every thing so that we can get you to the message “Press any key to boot from CD or DVD…”

                        1. At this message press any key on the keyboard before it boot the local hard drive. This should launch the winpe image you created.
                        2. At the end of the booting process it should drop you to a cmd prompt.
                        3. Manually map to your win10 network share
                        4. Run the setup.exe program.
                        5. The Win10 installer should launch
                        6. Abort the install.

                        If you get to step 6, then we can work on fine tuning the steps. We will know all of the parts work, we just need to improve the flow.

                        Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!

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                          motto @george1421
                          last edited by Dec 21, 2017, 12:55 PM

                          @george1421 Stuck at 1º step at the moment…

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