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    aksl
    last edited by Aug 26, 2017, 2:43 PM

    No solutions ?

    Sorry 😞

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      Sebastian Roth Moderator
      last edited by Aug 27, 2017, 10:13 PM

      @aksl The things you posted are a bit mixed up. This way we won’t get any further I am afraid. So same question again. Is this happening on one single PC or several ones? All the same model/vendor or different ones? Please post a proper list of the PC you tested this on, like this:

      • Dell Optiplex 3020M - UEFI - exit type: rEFInd - hangs on black screen
      • …

      Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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        aksl
        last edited by Aug 27, 2017, 10:46 PM

        Thanks for your help.

        In fact, it’s simple.

        For all PCs with Legacy mode, it’s working.

        For all PCs with UEFI mode, isn’t working (tried all exit mode).

        Windows 7, 8 & 10 !

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          george1421 Moderator @aksl
          last edited by Aug 27, 2017, 11:24 PM

          @aksl For uefi, rEFInd is really your best option. Make sure you have the exit mode for the specific computer and uefi set to rEFInd and then lets tell refind to look in more places for a boot drive.

          1. On the fog server from a linux console prompt edit the following file: /var/www/html/fog/service/ipxe/refind.conf
          2. Search for the line scanfor internal and comment it out to look like this
          #scanfor internal
          
          1. Search for the line #scanfor internal,hdbios,external,biosexternal and uncomment it to look like this
          scanfor internal,hdbios,external,biosexternal
          
          1. Save and exit the editor.
          2. Now pxe boot the uefi system and see if that mode finds the hard drive.

          rEFInd “should” find the boot disk if it’s installed.

          Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!

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            Sebastian Roth Moderator
            last edited by Aug 28, 2017, 5:47 AM

            And as well, while you edit /var/www/html/fog/service/ipxe/refind.conf set the option timeout to zero. Then it would show you another boot selection menu. So hopefully we will see anything on screen at least.

            @aksl said:

            For all PCs with Legacy mode, it’s working.
            For all PCs with UEFI mode, isn’t working (tried all exit mode).
            Windows 7, 8 & 10 !

            Have you actually installed those systems in UEFI mode? It’s very different to install windows in legacy BIOS mode and then just switch over to UEFI later on.

            Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

            Please support FOG if you like it: https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Support_FOG

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              aksl
              last edited by Aug 30, 2017, 7:35 AM

              Hi,

              I edited the refind.conf and timeout is now zero.

              I don’t see any difference in the boot menu.

              Do I have to press a key ?

              Currently functioning as before.

              Thanks

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                Sebastian Roth Moderator
                last edited by Aug 30, 2017, 7:51 AM

                @aksl Did you also change the things in refind.conf George suggested? See his post a little further down.

                Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                  aksl
                  last edited by Aug 30, 2017, 9:17 AM

                  Oh, I had not seen sorry.

                  But I tested and finally it’s the same problem.

                  Always this line which flashes in the top left.

                  With your different shifts, I have not seen any behavior changes in the boot menu.

                  I don’t know what to do …;

                  Thanks

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                    Sebastian Roth Moderator
                    last edited by Aug 30, 2017, 10:40 AM

                    @aksl Secure boot is disabled I suppose?!

                    Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                      aksl
                      last edited by Aug 30, 2017, 10:53 AM

                      Yea … disabled

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                        aksl
                        last edited by Aug 31, 2017, 9:53 AM

                        To your mind, the problem is FOG or my bios setup ?

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                          Sebastian Roth Moderator
                          last edited by Sep 2, 2017, 6:29 AM

                          @aksl said in Imposible to boot from hard drive:

                          To your mind, the problem is FOG or my bios setup ?

                          Well, I am still not quite sure. We have hundreds of users and almost no one reporting an issue with chainloading windows.
                          Please do me a favour, take one of these PCs where you see the issue, pop in a windows install CD and boot from it. For that change boot order to CD, HD, PXE and make sure to not change anything except boot order!!! Let it install completely, finish the initial setup, remove CD and then change boot order to PXE, HD, CD. Big question now: Does chainloading windows from the FOG menu fail again (should be a machine/BIOS issue) or does it chainload properly (tells us we have a FOG/iPXE issue I suppose.
                          Note down the result and do the reverse test now. Leave BIOS settings as is and let it deploy your image you had the issue with before. Then try chainloading from the FOG menu to windows again.

                          I know this sounds a lot of pain but I ask you to give it a go to proove what is wrong here. Do it exactly as described, don’t try to be smart and use another PC to make this go faster or anything.

                          By the way, is this a resizable image type or non-resizable one?

                          Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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                            aksl
                            last edited by Sep 4, 2017, 8:34 AM

                            Hello,

                            Does chainloading windows from the FOG menu fail again (should be a machine/BIOS issue) : yes.

                            But I have this concern from the beginning. It is not on a restored image but on a direct installation.

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                              Sebastian Roth Moderator
                              last edited by Sep 4, 2017, 2:50 PM

                              @aksl So Chainloading from the FOG menu to disk (windows) has never ever worked for you in UEFI mode on Dell Optiplex 3020M and Motherboard ASUS A58M-E?! Not even when installing the OS by hand. Do I get this right?

                              Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

                              Please support FOG if you like it: https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Support_FOG

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                                aksl
                                last edited by Sep 5, 2017, 8:16 AM

                                Hello,

                                I just tested on a laptop ASUS (uefi) and it works!

                                Which means that it comes from the computer or the bios.

                                J’ai essayé toutes les configurations possibles du bios mais impossible.

                                Thanks

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                                  aksl
                                  last edited by aksl Sep 5, 2017, 2:22 AM Sep 5, 2017, 8:20 AM

                                  Informations :

                                  My DHCP : Default bios file name : undionly.kpxe

                                  UEFI 32 bit file name : ipxe32.efi

                                  UEFI 64 bit file name : ipxe64.efi

                                  posible Kernel problem ?

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                                    george1421 Moderator @aksl
                                    last edited by george1421 Sep 5, 2017, 4:00 AM Sep 5, 2017, 10:00 AM

                                    @aksl said in Imposible to boot from hard drive:

                                    UEFI 32 bit file name : ipxe32.efi
                                    UEFI 64 bit file name : ipxe64.efi

                                    What is this? These are not standard FOG boot file names. For x64 the boot file should be ipxe.efi. And for x86 the boot file should: i386-efi/ipxe.efi

                                    Please help us build the FOG community with everyone involved. It's not just about coding - way more we need people to test things, update documentation and most importantly work on uniting the community of people enjoying and working on FOG!

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                                      aksl
                                      last edited by Sep 5, 2017, 10:51 AM

                                      Modified, but this is not the problem.

                                      Is it possible that it can not work with this motherboard?

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                                        Sebastian Roth Moderator
                                        last edited by Sebastian Roth Sep 8, 2017, 2:33 PM Sep 5, 2017, 11:32 AM

                                        @aksl said in Imposible to boot from hard drive:

                                        Is it possible that it can not work with this motherboard?

                                        Definitely possible. We have seen buggy UEFI firmware that wasn’t able to chainload the linux kernel so it is also possible to see issues with chainloading to rEFInd on some crappy firmware. This just sparked an idea… Are you able to deploy/capture from those PCs that have an issue with chainloading? I suspect rEFInd and linux kernel just being EFI stub binaries and should actually show the same behavior (hang). Can you confirm?

                                        Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

                                        Please support FOG if you like it: https://wiki.fogproject.org/wiki/index.php/Support_FOG

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                                          aksl
                                          last edited by Sep 8, 2017, 7:55 AM

                                          I am able to capture image from this PC.

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