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    • RE: This is how I've deployed Windows 8.1 with Fog 0.32

      I wiped it clean again, and used a generic Windows 8.1 disk, didn’t use the restored disks.

      Loaded the OS, it only had two partitions, just like Windows 7.

      Uploaded, set the test image to multiple partitoin image single disk, partclone.

      Wiped it clean again.

      Did a download, it worked!?

      So, the issue is what ever Lenovo is doing to the partitions, during the restore, will not work with FOG.

      [IMG]http://ruckersystems.com/avatar/windows8.jpg[/IMG]

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    • RE: This is how I've deployed Windows 8.1 with Fog 0.32

      I wiped clean again, but this time I used diskpart, and remove the recovery partitions.

      Then I rebooted the system, it came up just fine.

      So, I uploaded as multiple partition single disk, PartClone.

      Wipe again, and down loaded, it gave me the blinking cursor, no big deal, just ran Windows 8 repair.

      It could not fix it, no big deal, I’ll just do a recovery on it. Still had the blinking cursor, no big deal ran MBR fixer, WTF.

      Now it says no operating system. Boot up with WindowsPE, all of the files are there, no big deal.

      Boot to Windows 8 and did PC refresh, yes move the partitions, WTF, it still says no operating system.

      I’m going to reload again, us diskpart, remove the recovery partition, upload as RAW image, them download again. 😞

      [IMG]http://ruckersystems.com/avatar/TestAgain.jpg[/IMG]

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    • RE: This is how I've deployed Windows 8.1 with Fog 0.32

      [quote=“Tom Elliott, post: 40201, member: 7271”]I fail to understand how you “tried” all of the above and:

      Yet you end yup with 6 partitions on your disks.

      And you’re IT Support? So you say, nah I won’t follow any of the actual instructions that are presented, but I’ll do my OWN thing. Then I’ll complain that My OWN thing isn’t working?

      I’m done answering your questions. Sorry it has to be like this, but after reviewing of the information it appears that you lack the ability to follow simple instruction and just feel things should work the way you want them to because you want them to work that way. You’ll blame your problems as a “limitation of FOG” which seems rather selfish in the firstplace because you obviously have no understanding of what fog actually is.[/quote]

      I just wiped a Lenovo 10Ay, to see if I get the same thing, I did. I uploaded it to a Test image. So, I’m showing you what I see in FOG, and what I see when it does the download.

      [IMG]http://ruckersystems.com/avatar/windows-8.1.jpg[/IMG]
      As you can see there are six partitions, but what is weird in Windows disk management, it only shows five.
      This looks like it is using mbr, but if I’m wrong, correct me.

      I used a different set up disk, got the same result.

      Is this limited to Lenovo?

      posted in Tutorials
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    • RE: This is how I've deployed Windows 8.1 with Fog 0.32

      NO, I quoting you from another forum, and it was not insult, it was a question.

      Let me try again. The Lenovo’s, when using their systems disks, creates six partitions, is this why that RAW image format only works.

      What can I do to get around the six partitions?

      Do you think that the debug is going to work? I’m getting ready to try the process, with the instructions you gave me.

      Thank you for you help.

      posted in Tutorials
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    • RE: This is how I've deployed Windows 8.1 with Fog 0.32

      WOW
      What’s wrong with you.
      Fist, when I reload the Lenovo’s with the system disks that come with it, it creates these partitions!
      Second, when I found in a forum, and you stated that FOG doesn’t like more that three partitions, I queried you on that detail.
      Third, I’m not doing things the way I want to, I’m using the tools that are given to me by Lenovo.
      Fourth, have you worked with any Lenovo’s ? Have you wiped one clean, and reload it using it’s systems disk, there is four on them.
      Fifth, I trying to keep and open dialog with you, to work through this, didn’t expect you to throw your hands in the air, then start insulting me.

      If you and others state your here to help, what’s with the insults.

      I’ve been an LAN Administrator for 15 years, started using FOG four years ago, and have pushed it to other offices, and applauded FOG over Ghost.

      At what point have I insulated YOU!

      posted in Tutorials
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    • RE: This is how I've deployed Windows 8.1 with Fog 0.32

      I answered you on the other forum, about the 6 partitions. As for trying the above, maybe later, I have new servers coming in, and more people are being hired. So, the move 1.2 will have to be delayed, thanks for your help.

      posted in Tutorials
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    • RE: GPT images fail deployment

      So, it’s not the GPT or MBR, but FOG has a limitation, because of how Lenovo loads their machines.

      I guess I have to live with the RAW image then, correct.

      I have to say, it works very well, but it’s very slow, thank you for your thoughts.

      posted in FOG Problems
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    • RE: GPT images fail deployment

      [quote=“Tom Elliott, post: 21323, member: 7271”]I’m going to ask, are you using FOG 0.32 or FOG 0.33b?

      I think this problem is still existing in FOG 0.33b as I haven’t added anything for gparted, though I imagine this is relatively easy to do. I’m just one guy though, so making all these edits and testing is a bit rough. I’ve basically been trying to get things back to a sort of operational state from the Perspective of the init.gz, kernel, and WEB GUI and have edited the fog scripts pretty heavily. However, theh things I do notice is that FOG doesn’t like anything more than three partitions. The problem, I imagine, is that the images are saved from partition to partition rather than disk to disk.

      I don’t know if disk to disk is even possible so I’ll try playing with that today. If it goes disk to disk, I’d imagine imaging would be a little better off as we don’t need to loop through each of the files in a specified order to get things imaged. We only need the one file, but what implications this has on varying disk sizes is questionable.

      Questions I ask myself are:

      Would this method copy the data appropriately?
      Does this mean your drives are resized according to the drive parameters?
      Will this work for GPT/EFI/MBR?
      Does partclone do disk copies in this manner with bit to bit, or block to block?

      While these are just a couple of questions, I think these are the biggest of them all as we would need to know the implications of this.[/quote]

      In this thread you said that FOG doesn’t like more than 3 partitions, when I use the Lenovo disk to install the OS, there are 6 partitions.

      Is this why my images fail, and is this why the RAW image format works for me?

      posted in FOG Problems
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    • RE: This is how I've deployed Windows 8.1 with Fog 0.32

      [B][SIZE=18px]Tom Elliott Could you and I finish this conversation.[/SIZE][/B]

      [SIZE=4][B][COLOR=#ffffff][SIZE=18px][COLOR=#141414]I was asking for details, and got general information.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]

      posted in Tutorials
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    • RE: This is how I've deployed Windows 8.1 with Fog 0.32

      [quote=“Thomas Rucker, post: 40178, member: 1970”]1. When you said the image type did you mean Part-Image and Part-clone?
      2. The exit type, not sure what you mean by that, a little more detail.
      3. As fog GPT or MBR, those are not an option during the install, like a said before, the are Lenovo’s. So that part I can’t help you with.
      4. Start an upload of a good system, I already have that, other wise I couldn’t push what I have right now, but the Debug task sounds interesting. Would like some more detail on that, please.
      5. Fixparts on system, not sure what you mean by this, and again more detail, thank you.[/quote]

      I would like to say though Part-Clone is much faster then Part-image.

      posted in Tutorials
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    • RE: This is how I've deployed Windows 8.1 with Fog 0.32

      [quote=“Tom Elliott, post: 40177, member: 7271”]First, the image type had no effect on the systems booting. Lots changed between 1.1.2 and 1.2.0. I think this is related to one of two things. 1. maybe it’s related to the exit type, maybe it’s not. But you could give that a shot. 2. It’s most likely related to the hdd’s having GPT, and that also my thoughts of the Windows 8/8.1 that you’re having.

      Maybe start an upload of a good system but make it a Debug task. Before running fog, run fixparts on the system. See if this helps.[/quote]

      1. When you said the image type did you mean Part-Image and Part-clone?
      2. The exit type, not sure what you mean by that, a little more detail.
      3. As fog GPT or MBR, those are not an option during the install, like a said before, the are Lenovo’s. So that part I can’t help you with.
      4. Start an upload of a good system, I already have that, other wise I couldn’t push what I have right now, but the Debug task sounds interesting. Would like some more detail on that, please.
      5. Fixparts on system, not sure what you mean by this, and again more detail, thank you.
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    • RE: This is how I've deployed Windows 8.1 with Fog 0.32

      [quote=“Tom Elliott, post: 40170, member: 7271”]When you installed Windows 8, did you install with UEFI? If you installed with UEFI, before you uploaded (using the other than RAW methods), did you disable secure boot?

      Did you try installing through CSM/Legacy BIOS on a Pure MBR system?

      Your details are very limiting hence all the “back and forth.”

      The black cursor. When did this happen? Was it on the PXE boot itself? When it was actually booting to the system? If so, did you try other Exit types?[/quote]

      The BIOS is set to legacy on all of them, the machines came that way, Lenovo 10AY, the secure boot is disable by default.
      These machine come with Windows 8, I wipe them clean re-installed Windows, with out all of the crappy software. Run all of the updates, which is the 8.1 update.

      After the updates, I run CCleaner to clean the machine up, run check disk, to clean up the disk, then defrag. Then I boot to WinPE to remove the System Volume folder and recycle bin, then create my image.

      This has always worked for Windows XP, 2003 Server, 2008 R2 server, Windows 7, never had any issues. Until FOG 1.2

      The black cursor for the Windows 7, is after I updated to 1.2.

      When it finishes imaging the machine, and reboots, I get the black cursor, and it can’t be fixed. I tried different types single disk, multiple partition singles disk, multiple partition image all disks, changed from partimage to partclone, nothing worked.

      So, I move back to 1.1.2, I was running out of time pissing with 1.2, I had to get 30 machines imaged for new hires.

      The only question I have, what is up with Windows 8.1? That is the only question.

      posted in Tutorials
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    • RE: This is how I've deployed Windows 8.1 with Fog 0.32

      [quote=“Junkhacker, post: 40168, member: 21583”]what about windows 7? 1.2 works fine with windows 7[/quote]

      Nope, when i did the upgrade, my Windows 7 would net even boot, just a black screen with a cursor. I ran windows 7 repair, failed, ran MBR fixer, still a black screen with a cursor.

      I didn’t time to mess with that version, so I move back down. I had to image 30 Windows 7 machine for new hires.

      The Windows 8.1 is not being push, but I want to be ready.

      The 1.1.2 is working great, my Windows XP, 2003 server, 2008 R2 server, and Windows 7 work, needs to be working, we are expanding again.

      If there is no other solution, I just stay with the RAW image format, at least it works.

      posted in Tutorials
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    • RE: This is how I've deployed Windows 8.1 with Fog 0.32

      [quote=“Junkhacker, post: 40164, member: 21583”]update to 1.2.0[/quote]

      All ready tried that, had to move back down, because of Windows 7.

      posted in Tutorials
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    • RE: This is how I've deployed Windows 8.1 with Fog 0.32

      [quote=“Junkhacker, post: 40149, member: 21583”]you don’t have to do anything special to prepare a windows 8/8.1/10 image with the latest versions of fog. sysprep isn’t even needed. a normal default install and upload just works.[/quote]

      No it doesn’t, I’ve tried that first, I’ve tried from other forums, that didn’t work, so I did a RAW disk upload, that worked.

      Just the normal upload, then do a download to a machine would give me the winload.exe failure.

      I would boot up to a USB Windows 8.1 drive and run a repair, that would fail.

      I saw on forum using the RAW disk format, and that worked.

      posted in Tutorials
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    • RE: This is how I've deployed Windows 8.1 with Fog 0.32

      [quote=“Junkhacker, post: 40134, member: 21583”]you’re using fog 1.1.2 and you followed a guide for 0.32? the software was almost completely rewritten between the two.[/quote]

      I’ve used several processes from different forums. The process here was the last that I tried.

      I’ve used all combinations from many forums, none worked.

      With this newer version, there should not be and issue, but Windows 8.1 is a beast.

      posted in Tutorials
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    • RE: This is how I've deployed Windows 8.1 with Fog 0.32

      I’m using FOG 1.1.2, I’ve tried all of the above, nothing works. When I got the “winload.exe failure”. I booted off a 8.1 disk/usb and ran the repair, that failed.

      So, I upload the image as RAW Disk, very slow, but it works.

      posted in Tutorials
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    • RE: E6440 Full host registration problems

      is this the latest kernel?

      posted in Hardware Compatibility
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    • RE: E6440 Full host registration problems

      Having the same problem with a Lenovo.

      How do you use a different kernel?

      posted in Hardware Compatibility
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