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      Sebastian Roth Moderator
      last edited by Sebastian Roth

      @Trev-lchs Ok, filesnames and paths all seem fine. Not sure what else you can try. As I said, some hardware does play with rEFInd and some don’t.

      Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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        Trev-lchs @Sebastian Roth
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        @sebastian-roth Thats a shame, I can capture from the PC and also write the Image to the PC, so I will just have to turn off boot from network until a refind file comes along that works I guess. Unless there are any other suggestions out there.

        Sebastian thank you for all your time with this, if you should hear of anything or find out from another user what the fix might be, please do drop me a line if you can. Are you able to see the email address of members?

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          Sebastian Roth Moderator
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          @Trev-lchs Have you played with the mentioned refind.conf yet? Search the forum for more hints in this topic.

          Which versions of rEFInd have you tried? All of them?

          Web GUI issue? Please check apache error (debian/ubuntu: /var/log/apache2/error.log, centos/fedora/rhel: /var/log/httpd/error_log) and php-fpm log (/var/log/php*-fpm.log)

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            Trev-lchs @Sebastian Roth
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            @sebastian-roth Thanks Sebastian, to be honest, most of them, with exactly the same result. I will try the conf file and see if that is the answer. I have been busy unpacking and installing PCs for the last few days, I will let you know how I get on.

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              PeterL
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              Your issue with rEFInd is because of HPs EFI.
              I have exactly the same issue with ProDesk 400 for quite some time.
              The workaround to get those systems booting via rEFInd was a downgrade of the rEFInd binaries.

              For me a downgrade to rEFInd out of the FOG 1.5.5 package did the trick.

              FOG 1.5.5

              Path in the ZIP archive: fogproject-1.5.5.zip\fogproject-1.5.5\packages\web\service\ipxe\refind.efi

              The binary is dated 15.11.2018

              On a Debian system place the file in /var/www/html/fog/service/ipxe
              Once as “refind.efi” and a second time as “refind_x64.efi”.

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                PeterL @PeterL
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                @peterl said in REFInd-Initializing - hangs:

                Your issue with rEFInd is because of HPs EFI.
                I have exactly the same issue with ProDesk 400 for quite some time.
                The workaround to get those systems booting via rEFInd was a downgrade of the rEFInd binaries.

                For me a downgrade to rEFInd out of the FOG 1.5.5 package did the trick.

                FOG 1.5.5

                Path in the ZIP archive: fogproject-1.5.5.zip\fogproject-1.5.5\packages\web\service\ipxe\refind.efi

                The binary is dated 15.11.2018

                On a Debian system place the file in /var/www/html/fog/service/ipxe
                Once as “refind.efi” and a second time as “refind_x64.efi”.

                As I’m not allowed to edit my own posts …

                I’ve seen this issue on ProDesk 400G5, none the less I think it’s the same problem.
                HPs EFI is a real PITA and besides the problem you observed you will (most likely) also stumble upon a changed boot order, once you deployed images to your hardware.

                There is a setting for WOL in the “internal devices” section in the EFI, where you most likely will want to setup “PXE” instead of “normal boot”. This way you will be able to remotely work with a machine by shutting it down, waking it up and have it reliably booting to FOG menu/task.

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                  george1421 Moderator @PeterL
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                  @peterl FWIW the refind files can be located here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/refind/files/

                  For a very log time FOG shipped with 0.11.0 version of refind. This was a very stable, but old release. Based on the image date you referenced that must be the 0.11.4 release of refind. You might also want to try 0.13.2 (newest at the time of writing). To see if the very latest version of refind works for you.

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                    PeterL @george1421
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                    @george1421

                    I did some testing with 0.13.2 and 0.11.4 and BOTH did not work.

                    0.11.4 files are dated “12.11.2018 21:13:xx”, size of the refind_x64.efi file 208 776 Bytes.

                    The binary in the FOG 1.5.5 package (refind.efi) is dated “15.11.2018 20:42:17”, size 205 192 Bytes.

                    Those are not the same files.

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                      Trev-lchs @PeterL
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                      @peterl Thank you Peter, I will endeavor to do as suggested, currently I have settled for no general pxe boot/network boot on all the PCs, this is a pain, but just means I have to go to a pc locally to boot into fog to deploy an image and I cant just do it from the fog GUI.

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                        WillingMost7 @PeterL
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                        @peterl Ton of thanks to you. I have the exact same model here and I have had this problem.

                        Now downgraded to rEFInd of fogproject-1.5.5 it is not stuck anymore on “rEFInd-Initializing…”, but it is stuck now on “Scanning for new boot loaders; Please wait…”
                        Have you made any changes to the refind.conf file?
                        Mine is set at:

                        ....
                        scanfor internal
                        ....
                        timeout -1
                        ....
                        scan_delay 5
                        ....
                        

                        It is an improvement, we’re getting somewhere now and soon will solve this. So, thanks for sharing!

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                          quinniedid
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                          @Trev-lchs We are an all HP shop. We have to use rEFInd version 0.10.9 for all of our systems to boot correctly. This is definitely something with HP’s EFI setup.

                          I ran into this problem myself, which you can reference the post https://forums.fogproject.org/topic/11993/refind-pxe-booting-issue

                          Let me know if you were able to get this working with this version

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                            jfernandz @PeterL
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                            First of all, sorry for resurrecting this old thread. However … I was experiencing this issue with HP machines with BIOS U62 Ver.01.01.21 07/01/2024.

                            The only way I was able to workaround the issue is by using refind binaries from FOG 1.5.5 as @PeterL says in their answer:

                            @PeterL said in REFInd-Initializing - hangs:

                            Your issue with rEFInd is because of HPs EFI.
                            I have exactly the same issue with ProDesk 400 for quite some time.
                            The workaround to get those systems booting via rEFInd was a downgrade of the rEFInd binaries.

                            For me a downgrade to rEFInd out of the FOG 1.5.5 package did the trick.

                            FOG 1.5.5

                            Path in the ZIP archive: fogproject-1.5.5.zip\fogproject-1.5.5\packages\web\service\ipxe\refind.efi

                            The binary is dated 15.11.2018

                            On a Debian system place the file in /var/www/html/fog/service/ipxe
                            Once as “refind.efi” and a second time as “refind_x64.efi”.

                            But I’ve tried with latest rEFInd version from sourceforge as @george1421 points in their answer

                            @george1421 said in REFInd-Initializing - hangs:

                            @peterl FWIW the refind files can be located here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/refind/files/

                            For a very log time FOG shipped with 0.11.0 version of refind. This was a very stable, but old release. Based on the image date you referenced that must be the 0.11.4 release of refind. You might also want to try 0.13.2 (newest at the time of writing). To see if the very latest version of refind works for you.

                            but even this latest version isn’t able to boot the EFI partition from the internal disk. So weird, not sure how may I help to diagnose this issue for rEFInd project … but I’d like to help. Can’t find a way to increase verbosity for rEFInd despite I’ve tried some config directives in refind.conf

                            Thank you for this helpful post guys 😛

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