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    UEFI imaging slow (~1.2 GB/min) on Realtek RTL8168h (rev 15) - r8169 CSI fallback - possible regression from r8169 switch?

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      rpycroft
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      Hi guys,

      Issue seemingly with a certain NIC type on some of our kit we’ve noticed for a while but only just been able to investigate fully. Wondering if anyone else has this issue with a similar

      FOG Version: 1.5.10.2149
      FOS Kernel: 6.18.38
      Init Version: 20260804
      Server OS: Ubuntu (master + 2 x storage nodes)
      Client Hardware: Dell OptiPlex 3070

      ISSUE UEFI image deployments run at around 1.2 GB/min (~100 Mbps) on Dell OptiPlex 3070 machines. Legacy/BIOS deployments on the same hardware and infrastructure run at 6-10 GB/min as expected. UEFI uploads (capture) are also fast at ~15 GB/min so the issue is specific to UEFI downloads only.

      THINGS ALREADY RULED OUT:

      • Patch lead (swapped, no difference)
      • Image compression (tested ZSTD and Partclone, identical speed)
      • RAID vs AHCI (no difference)
      • Storage node (tested all 3 nodes, same result)
      • Dell BIOS (already on latest v1.35)
      • iPXE boot file (tested ipxe.efi and snponly.efi, no difference)
      • Kernel arg r8169.aspm=0 (no difference)
      • Link speed (confirmed 1000Mb/s Full Duplex via ethtool)

      ROOT CAUSE IDENTIFIED lspci in a FOG debug task on the affected 3070 shows: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 15) dmesg | grep r816 shows: r8169 0000:01:00.0 eth0: RTL8168h/8111h r8169 0000:01:00.0 eth0: jumbo frames [frames: 9194 bytes, tx checksumming: ko] r8169 0000:01:00.0 enp1s0: No native access to PCI extended config space, falling back to CSI r8169 0000:01:00.0 enp1s0: Link is Up - 1Gbps/Full - flow control off The key issues are tx checksumming: ko and the CSI fallback, both known performance problems with the r8169 driver on RTL8168h rev 15 chips.

      SUSPECTED CAUSE I noticed this recent commit in the FOS repo: Switch x64/arm64 kernels to in-kernel r8169 for RTL8168/8125/8126 I believe this switch from r8168 to r8169 may have introduced the regression. This is documented in Debian Bug #1110193 (filed July 2025): https://bugs.debian.org/1110193 The reporter has identical lspci output and the same Rx-only slowdown, resolved by installing r8168-dkms.

      WORKAROUND Booting in Legacy/BIOS mode for imaging works but is not practical long term.

      REQUEST Would it be possible to revert the r8169 switch for RTL8168h rev 15 chips or provide an experimental kernel build with r8168 re-enabled? Happy to test any experimental builds and report back. r8168 driver code is already in the FOS repo at: https://github.com/FOGProject/fos/tree/master/KernelPackages/drivers/net/ethernet/realtek

      Thanks in advance guys.

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        Tom Elliott @rpycroft
        last edited by

        @rpycroft Thank you for the writeup. The elimination you did up front — cables,
        link speed, compression, RAID vs AHCI, all three storage nodes, BIOS, iPXE
        files — saved me a lot of guessing, and the commit you linked is the right one.

        You’re right that it’s the r8169 switch, but not quite in the way it looks.
        The in-kernel driver isn’t worse than the vendor one here. It exposed something
        we’d had broken for nine years without knowing.

        Two kernel options that are on by default upstream have been off in the FOS
        kernel config since 2016:

        # CONFIG_PCIEASPM is not set
        # CONFIG_PCI_MMCONFIG is not set
        

        ASPM is PCIe link power management — it lets the link drop into a low power
        state when idle and wake when there’s traffic. Waking up is the expensive part.

        Nobody noticed for nine years because the Realtek vendor drivers we used to
        ship handled ASPM themselves. Our r8168 build had dynamic ASPM compiled in,
        which effectively switched ASPM off any time packets were moving. It didn’t
        matter that the kernel couldn’t manage it, because the driver never asked the
        kernel to.

        r8169 does it the normal way: it asks the PCI core to disable L1 once, when the
        card is probed. That’s where this bites. With CONFIG_PCIEASPM off, the function
        it calls isn’t a function at all — it’s a stub that returns “success” without
        doing anything. So r8169 is told the OS disabled L1, marks ASPM as being under
        OS control, and then goes on to enable ASPM and L1.2 on the card — on a
        kernel with no ASPM code in it that disabled nothing. Not one line in the logs
        to say so.

        That “falling back to CSI” line you included is the second option. Without
        CONFIG_PCI_MMCONFIG the kernel only sees the first 256 bytes of each device’s
        config space, and the registers controlling the L1 sub-states live past that.
        So even a kernel that wanted to fix this couldn’t reach them. Including that
        line is what let me tie the two together, so thank you for pasting it.

        That also explains the two things in your report that looked strangest:

        Why UEFI and not legacy — ASPM is programmed by the firmware, and Dell’s UEFI
        path turns L1 on where the legacy/CSM path leaves it off. Our kernel couldn’t
        change it either way, so whatever the firmware picked stuck. Legacy was never
        actually faster; you were getting a machine where ASPM was already off.

        Why deploys and not captures — a deploy is your client receiving. The link
        goes quiet between bursts from the server, drops into L1.2, and pays the wake
        cost over and over. A capture is the client sending, which keeps the link
        busy so it never gets the chance to sleep. That’s your 15 GB/min upload sitting
        next to a 1.2 GB/min download on the same cable.

        Worth saying before anyone suggests it: adding pcie_aspm=off to the kernel
        arguments does nothing on a FOS kernel. The code registering that argument is
        inside the same #ifdef, so it’s compiled out too. It would look like you tried
        the standard fix and it didn’t help.

        I’ve built you an experimental x64 kernel with both options turned back on:

        https://github.com/FOGProject/fos/releases/tag/EXP_20260805-123232
        
        sha256  6fadc7204889bc76fe943520319044940c24654365a523d5df7adf8327a88d25
        

        It’s the kernel only — your init is untouched and doesn’t need changing. Back
        up your current /var/www/html/fog/service/ipxe/bzImage, drop this one in its
        place, and deploy to one of the 3070s. Putting the old file back is the whole
        rollback if it doesn’t help.

        If you want to confirm the diagnosis yourself first, it takes about a minute
        and doesn’t need my kernel at all. Boot a 3070 to a shell in debug mode:

        lspci -nn | grep -i ethernet     # note the Realtek address, e.g. 02:00.0
        lspci -t                         # note the root port above it, e.g. 00:1c.5
        
        setpci -s 02:00.0 CAP_EXP+10.w
        setpci -s 00:1c.5 CAP_EXP+10.w
        

        The bottom two bits of each value are the ASPM setting — 0 is off, 2 is L1,
        3 is L0s+L1. Run it once booted UEFI and once booted legacy. If I have this
        right, UEFI shows a 2 or a 3 and legacy shows a 0.

        And to watch it fix itself, clear both (root port first) and rerun the deploy
        without rebooting:

        setpci -s 00:1c.5 CAP_EXP+10.w=0000
        setpci -s 02:00.0 CAP_EXP+10.w=0000
        

        That’s not a fix you can keep — it’s gone on the next boot — but if the speed
        jumps back to 6-10 GB/min, that confirms it before you swap any files.

        One loose end: could you post the raw output of ethtool -k <interface>? You
        mentioned tx checksumming being off and I want to be sure I’m not waving away a
        second, separate problem. It shouldn’t be able to cause a download-only
        slowdown, but I’d rather look than assume.

        Thanks for the report and for offering to test — I’m taking you up on it.

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